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THEY ARE GOING TO SUE - DID WE HEAR ALL THAT BEFORE!

MCCANNS TO SUE POLICE FOR £1 MILLION

Maddie's parents consider legal action
Friday November 9,2007
By Martin Evans in Praia da Luz
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THE parents of Madeleine McCann are ready to sue Portuguese police for £1million for failing to find their daughter, it was claimed last night.
Kate and Gerry McCann, who remain official suspects in the case, are considering legal action over a string of blunders which they claim hampered the search for Madeleine.Portuguese lawyers representing the couple confirmed that they may launch legal action if the authorities decide to shelve the investigation. Senior detectives recently admitted that the case could be placed on file as early as Christmas unless there is a significant breakthrough.The McCanns and the only other official suspect, Robert Murat, could then have their arguido status removed and the case would be effectively archived. At that stage the McCanns could bring a civil case against the Policia Judiciaria for damaging their reputations and failing to find their daughter.

Portuguese police failed to follow up on Maddie sightings

One of the McCanns’ Portu­guese lawyers, Rogerio Alves, said the couple were focused on the hunt for four-year-old Madeleine at this stage but may consider legal action when the time was right.“Because we don’t even yet know what this case’s development will be, never mind making predictions for the future, nothing has been arranged in that sense. But what has to be done will be done in due time.”Another member of their legal team, Carlos Pinto Abreu, said suing the police would be difficult but not impossible.“You would have to prove that it was intentional – only if you had information that someone had said they knew where the child was and the police had taken no action. It would not be easy but it would be possible.”


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The McCanns are convinced Madeleine was abducted from their holiday apartment at the Ocean Club complex in Praia da Luz by an intruder at around 9.15pm on May 3.But they believe police errors in the initial hours after their daughter’s disappearance res­ulted in vital lost opportunities.The apartment was not sealed off as a crime scene, meaning crucial forensic evidence was lost.When detectives did examine the room, much of the evidence had been contaminated by police officers who were even smoking and dropping ash on the floor.The Policia Judiciaria also failed to alert officers on the border with Spain, allowing any possible abductor time to flee Portugal and even reach north Africa.Earlier this week, two military police officers, who were among the first on the scene on May 3, attacked the chaotic approach of the operation.One of the GNR officers, who requested anonymity in order to avoid disciplinary action, said: “When we arrived it was chaos. The whole world and his dog had walked through that place.“I lifted my arms up, rolled my eyes, put my head down and just got on with it. There was nothing we could do. The damage had already been done. It’s so frustrating. We can’t tell our superiors what to do.”He added: “It was like the police weren’t even there.“Civilians – family, friends, neighbours, staff, people off the street – everyone was in and out of that place.”Kate and Gerry, both doctors, are furious that the police have spent so much time building a case against them rather than trying to look for their missing daughter. If the case is never solved they fear the cloud of suspicion will always hang over them and they will find it difficult to rebuild their lives. The investigation has been beset by difficulties. Last month the Policia Judiciaria came in for criticism after it emerged that they had failed to follow up a number of reported sightings across Europe and in nearby Morocco.The authorities were also forced to sack the former head of the inquiry, Goncalo Amaral, after he repeatedly breached the country’s strict secrecy laws by leaking information about the case to the local media.Last night the McCanns’ official spokesman Clarence Mitchell admitted that legal action against the Portuguese authorities was something the couple were considering.He said: “It is something for their lawyers to consider further on down the line. The only way this case will close for Kate and Gerry is when Madeleine is found safe and well.”Any decision to lift the McCanns’ arguido status could signal a flurry of legal actions by the couple, who have been disgusted with some of the hurtful media coverage coming out of Portugal.They recently threatened to sue a number of publications that claimed they had sedated their children in order to go out to enjoy dinner.They have always vehemently denied giving their children anything stronger than Calpol.Last month they also threatened action against the newspaper 24 Hours which ran a front-page story claiming that Gerry was not Madeleine’s natural father.



CHRIST DIANA & CHRISTINA MADDY
25.01.08, 3:40am
CHRIST DIANA of necessity spends a lot of her time in Afghanistan comforting AS BEST SHE CAN the women and children (you should be able to understand why she feels so responsible)... and apparently CHRISTINA [little christ] MADDY or MADDIE is a tremendous help! Those dirty little faces (and such eyes!) are so frightened because they think the war ~ "the boom-boom" ~ is still happening (for them it isn't).But WHEN MADDIE SHOWS UP!!! (like a mini-nuke of Love) ~ OH! ~ they just love her....†TO HER PARENTS ~ YOUR faith has been a beacon to the world. And YOU shall meet Miryam, the mother of CHRIST JESUS.FATHER MOTHER GOD knows, counts and saves every one of your tears.YOUR SACRIFICE has been very great ~ but it is used (for example) to smite the conscience of those on your island ~ some in VERY high places ~ who have harmed dreadfully... {the souls were removed and replaced by fallen angels .... enough}IT WAS HOPED that the frequent apparition of images of Maddy and Diana on the same front pages would 'suggest' some kind of 'higher' relationship.{THE MASTER HAS BEEN GUIDED TO MINIMISE SUFFERING BY POINTING OUT THAT IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE ~ with god ~ THAT THE LITTLE ENGLISH GIRL – ON CLASSIFIED SPECIAL OPERATIONS FOR THE ALMIGHTY – IS CAPABLE OF ASSISTING "the beautiful lady" DURING PERIODS OF EARTHLY SLEEP.}What we can say – without fear of contradiction – ONE DAY in the fullness of time... CHRISTINA MADDY and her family will be reunited.{....out....yea, LORD}
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THAT SHOULD PAY OFF THEIR MORTGAGE
10.11.07, 6:09pm
The McCann's believe(know?) that Madeleine is not in Portugal, so how do they expect the Portuguese police to go out and find her.
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SASSYP
10.11.07, 10:35am
A poster name Reina made some posts over the last couple of days and because she is unlike most posters on here and because she disagrees with the anti McCann's the level of insults were absolutely despicable.Perhaps Ironside should read a few of those before making snap judgements. These insults were alluding to her mental health in a most unpleasant way and I was absolutely disgusted that the DE left them up, there was absolutely no reason for them to have done this.I tell you her views may have been different and they may have no basis, but they are her views and our views both the antis and the so called pros are no more reliable than hers. I am sick and tired of seeing people on here bullied and intimidate and deeply insulted just because they do not conform to the anti's viewpoint.What do you think of this *alleged* changing of the story? Don't you think that if this was really going to happen it would have by now?Also something I find odd is that Robert Murat was the interpreter when the friends gave their first statements and as he was later made an arguido, I think those statements should be voided and taken again with an official interpreter, after all he could have told the PJ anything? Not saying he did, but the man has been made a suspect in this case and this needs careful consideration.
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MORNING SASSYP
10.11.07, 10:22am
Anything new? I see the DE hasn't even got a headline today?
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IRONSIDE
10.11.07, 10:21am
Before making judgements like that try reading back to see why people reacted the way they did. I would not have even been on these boards last night if I had not discovered deeply offensive remarks made towards others and myself while we were not even logged on.Then if this wasn't bad enough one poster insulted Christabel because Christabel had said she was helping make costumes for a children's home for their Christmas play.This was after watching several posters insulting Mark all evening, where I wanted to intervene but stayed out of it, so as not to cause further problemsUsually I hold back on remarks but yesterday I had enough of the insults.Just be fair.
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IRONSIDE
10.11.07, 9:10am
1) The people who are constantly called pro-McCanns have said hundreds of times they are not pro, but they don't like the witch-hunt that is being carried out when there is absolutely no hard evidence about what happened to Madeleine. It has been pointed that the papers are writing anything just to sell papers. I would say that is a lot more open-minded than saying someone is guilty because it said so in the paper.2) As far as the people who are not anti-McCann are concerned, have you actually read the attacks that are carried out on them, because they refuse to be drawn into some group hysteria? Try reading the posts written by Viv, Zodiac and Bianca for starters. Incredibly aggressive and belittling. Naturally when someone agrees with them they are so sweet and call them super-intelligent - you would need fillings in your teeth just reading those comments.I think it says it all when someone who is not anti-McCann writes that she dreads seeing her name at the head of a post, because of what may be written underneath, or someone not anti-McCann feels "brave enough" today to write something. Is it any wonder in that case that the non-antis are in the minority here. I haven't heard comments like that from the antis.To call Rosipops a ringleader is absolutely ridiculous. She has kept her cool far longer than most, but gets attacked in the lowest way on a daily basis. Also to say that noone has a mind of their own in the non-anti camp is just as ridiculous. In the anti-camp everyone just agrees with Viv because then she'll be nice to them. Can I remind you that it's Viv that has been threatened with being blocked - one of the good ol' pleasant antis!!!
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THE WITCHING HOUR
10.11.07, 7:01am
I was on Guardia last night...Had the opportunity of reading through the night posts...what an awful group of unpleasant people they are...the ones that call themselves pro mccanns...I believe they invented this title..as I believe the people who wish for justice and honesty in this terrible tragedy are more open minded and see life the way it is....Gerry read a report when in the states 97% of children are harmed by their own parents ..that leaves the abduction theory at 3%...I wonder did he realise what he was saying....?The ring leader appears to be rosiepops and her fledglings with no mind of their own all chirp in agreement ,..what a very sad few they are ..It seems they are in denial that they are the minority......
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CHRISTABEL AND MARSMAN
10.11.07, 3:07am
Marsaman,I am so glad you all didn't get flooded. Yes God bless little Madeleine and her family. Even if they get the truth they will refuse to believe it, they will just go for the next thing of hate on their list. When they run out of things to hate the McCann's for I wonder which forum of hate they will all turn to next?Goodnight Marsman take care sleep well xChristabel,I hope she does get exposed on here, I hate it when people do things like this. It doesn't surprise me that she spreads such hate around the internet, I had half expected it to be the case, I think it is with a lot of them.I only look in here and post here, but tomorrow I am going to go around and look for some forums to see if I can spot her.Goodnight Christabel take care sleep well x
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YES ROSIE
10.11.07, 3:05am
I have found quite a few of her posts from searches and I shall not hesitate in sending them all to the DE if she carry's on.I don't like stooping to her level as I have done tonight but I will not have things I do for kids made fun of!!
• Posted by: ChristabelReport Comment

EH ROSIE YA HYPOCRITE I KNOW YOU ARE THERE
10.11.07, 2:43am
The party has started at my house. Care to explain why you and the gang get so upset when people attack you when you are 'not logged in'?Notice you said Viv had gone, but I was here to witness your very unfortunate gaffe.So the only 'professionals', heads of department or not, that should be respected are those that lose their daughter on a family holiday by way of neglect? You make a hell of a lot of fatuous accusations about other people's abilities and qualifications on here. Perhaps it's time to look in your own mirror. Do you respect the professionals that, at your age, you would undoubtably have to deal with now and again? Like your GP, your lawyer (to draw up your will) etc. Attacking Mark, the drunkard? Teehee, because he is pro-McCann he is immune? Don't make me laugh. Could you also explain why you respect 'Johncar' then? He makes some pretty serious 'head of department claims'. Who are the real hypocrites here, eh?How totally embarrassing for you to claim you do not abuse people when not logged in. Laughable, really. You are a sad bunch who have no respect for anyone, least of all Madeleine.
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MAUREEN AND CHRISTABEL
10.11.07, 2:42am
maureen.Bully NOreal-life mates, is another good name for themGoodnight Maureen, sleep well xChristabel,What is it you know about her? Do tell us, she wouldn't hold back. I only post here so haven't seen anything? I was wondering about the man, no wonder eh? Who could stand that for longer than half hour?Christabel, much respect for doing what you do, you know when you get attacked by that kind of person that you are completely doing the right thing.
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JOKE OF THE WEEK
10.11.07, 2:20am
HELLO LIZZY10.11.07, 2:07amPleased to see they have not driven all the lovely kind hearted people on here away. JUSTICE FOR LITTLE MADDIEAre you looking forward to seeing the documentary or have you already seen it? I just cant wait! • Posted by: Viv • Report CommentYou asked for it Viv. If it were not for you and your sly insulting attacks, I would be in my bed now.Go on plead innocence I dare you!
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ATHENA
10.11.07, 2:20am
Ahh...so its the program I mentioned last week? Last friday? I thought it was a new program...thanks!MarsmanI know it was a joke, i was also joking with you.
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LIZZY
10.11.07, 2:19am
Yes it is going to be a luxury to be able to walk downstairs instead of going up and down on my bum and wheeling myself around upstairs on an office chair. I wonder what my neighbour thinks I am doing! LOL
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HI CHRISTABEL
10.11.07, 2:15am
No worries, I don't blame you, fair minded people can only take so much.I hadn't been on here all night, just looked in occasionally, each time I did I saw Mark being intimidated by the bully no real life mates and then as I was going to bed I saw a post by Viv (who else) attacking you, me and some others and I just had enough and decided to give them some of their own medicine.I see she has gone running off with her tail between her legs. Serves them right they have been asking for that for ages.I have never ranted like that on here before, but I had enough of their sanctimonious clap trap tonight and all the pretence they put on.Why is that people who say they are of a profession are never just a doctor or a lawyer? they are always a head of something or other?I certainly do not believe that two of them are who they say they are. I have seen too many errors, especially in one profession.Perhaps we should call them *The Great Pretenders?*
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HELLO LIZZY
10.11.07, 2:07am
Pleased to see they have not driven all the lovely kind hearted people on here away. JUSTICE FOR LITTLE MADDIEAre you looking forward to seeing the documentary or have you already seen it? I just cant wait!
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WHAT'S THE MATTER VIV
10.11.07, 2:07am
You think if you shout it loud enough people will actually believe you care?I see through you, right through you.If you cared one little bit for that poor child you would not keep viciously attacking her parents and vilifying them daily as you do.Don't you know that children get extremely distressed if they feel their parents are upset? Have you not learned that in your fantasy law degree?:No? didn't think so.
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JAKIRLA
10.11.07, 2:03am
Don't expect any kind of sensible polite response from her, she only does abuse, unless she is sucking up to someone and then it gets so nauseatingly sweet it makes me want to throw up.
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ATHENA
10.11.07, 2:03am
Thanks! Good Night, God Bless and Blah blah blahJUSTICE FOR LITTLE MADDIE APPROACHESNOW SOME OF THE TAPAS HAVE REGAINED THEIR CONSCIENCES FOR WHICH THEY DESERVE OUR RESPECT I HOPE THIS WILL HELP THEM TO RECOVER FROM THE TERRIBLE NIGHTMARE THEY GOT DRAGGED INTO BY THE GRUESOME TWOSOME AS BWHISKEYSO APTLY CHRISTENED THEM
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NOT NICE IS IT VIV
10.11.07, 2:03am
WHEN YOU GET A TASTE OF YOUR OWN MEDICINE.WELL I FEEL BETTER NOW NOT HAD A RANT FOR AGES
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VIV
10.11.07, 2:00am
Ignore them, they can't help themselves, they accuse you of snide comments, when most of the time they are on here thats all they come out with.
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HIV
10.11.07, 1:57am
NOBODY LOVES YOU NOBODY CARESBOO HOO.I SEE YOU DON'T SLEEP TO WELL.I THINK GERRY KNOCKED YOU BACK THATS WHY YOU HATE KATE SO MUCHDO THEY KNOW OUR REALLY A CLEANER
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PEACEFUL NIGHT ALL!...ALSABELLA, VIV, DOCMAC,ETC.
10.11.07, 1:57am
Thank you very much for all your posts! As always fascinating in their diversity.Alsabella, you have been very much missed earlier!Blablabla....time to sleep xxx
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DOCMAC/VIV
10.11.07, 1:49am
You 2 seem to have all the qualities in docmacs' post earlier - about "borderline personalities".I came on earlier, made a comment, which was duly ignored, you were all too busy poking a stick at Mark55.I left for a couple of hours, looked back at posts and low and behold- still poking sticks at other posters.Look up the traits of borderline p's, you may gain some insight and hopefully some therapy.
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NITE NITE QUACMAC
10.11.07, 1:49am
I just cant stop laughing - as she would sayYOU JUST CANT MAKE THIS UP CAN YOUYes she is a close relative alright!
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ALSABELLA
10.11.07, 1:39am
Nice to see you on here tonight, have missed your posts, yes CM is pathetic, he is doing Gerry and Kate no favours. I actually think they are all pretty stupid, with the threats of sueing the Portugese Police for not finding their daughter, when it was down to them she disappeared , due to their neglect. They are very lucky they have not been prosecuted for the neglect of their three children.Clearly they have no regard for decency and have revealed by this threat to sue the Police for a million pounds that their only motivation is to make money out of their daughter which I find sickening.
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HEY ALSABELLA
10.11.07, 1:38am
Clarence is more than hysterical he is flippin LUDICROUS...ONE MILLION POUNDS ?? What to go with the other one they fraudulently copped all those nice people for !More seriously ~Tylersmum and myself had an interesting chat earlier on concerning the European Human Rights law which of course would apply to UK and Portugal and clearly demonstrates they could have no such cause of action! Silly Silly money grabbing old blllies!
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DIDDLY IDIOT DO
10.11.07, 1:38am
I have 3 absolutely beautiful mixed race childre N
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DOCMAC
10.11.07, 1:36am
then they should also be capable of fighting their own battles, so but out.
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ROSIEPOPS
10.11.07, 1:34am
QCs are quite capable of emptying their own bins, but you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.Are you going to reply to my answer to your 'quackmac' question? You seem to enjoy the term 'quack'. I remember you using it in reference to an eminent Spanish psychiatrist?
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VIV
10.11.07, 1:34am
Did you know that people that say they have a law background, are supposed to know something about the law?
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VIV
10.11.07, 1:27am
Why don't you produce that post to Johncar?As I remember it it was you that made yourself look like a prize twit not him.The only connection you have to the legal profession is emptying the bins.I see you are talking to diddleydoo now, the lot of you hypocrites, you were damning him to hell last week and accusing him of being me.pathetic bunch.
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ALSABELLA
10.11.07, 1:27am
Do you really believe that the McCanns are going to sue the polie?Look at all the other things that has been printed, and never happened.
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HELLO THE LOVELY ALSABELLA
10.11.07, 1:27am
Where have you been my friend. I just can t wait to see this documentary authorised by the PJ. Do you have link to the English version yet. You know it is a bit like Charles and Diana years ago isnt it - seeing who could out-documentary the other LOL
• Posted by: VivReport Comment

THEY ARE GOING TO SUE...
10.11.07, 1:16am
They talk a big game... let us see if they ever come through.These parents should bury their heads in shame.They go out to dinner and leave three children under 3 alone in an apartment and HAVE THER AUDACITY to threaten to sue the police for not finding her? THEY SHOULD THANK THEIR LUCKY STARS THEY ARE NOT IN JAIL.YOU TALK A BIG GAME MCCANNS...TOO BAD YOU ARE ONLY "SMART" FOR THREATS...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF YOU WERE SMART ENOUGH TO BE FIT PARENTS!
• Posted by: alsabelIaReport Comment

VIV
10.11.07, 1:09am
AthenaPublished: Saturday November 10,2007 by VivThe reason I think of the rather repulsive list of excuses is because if you are a regular on this forum, as I am, you will notice that they all plug the same current "excuse". Have a look at Rosie. Mandz Christobel Tinkerbelle etc and you will see what I mean. It is really sickening stuff to read but they all sing from the same hymn sheet and when we started to complain they never mention Maddie started to get repeated sickening messages to her nite nite little sweetheart hang on etc etc. I think one of the worse was plugging the she is a little maid in Morocco routine.---------------------------Sorry Viv! I am so slow in answering and I thought you had gone by the time I wanted to start! But the gorgeous Clooney is still around (smiles..).Although I have always tried to remain as some say "on the fence", I have been surprised and shocked by the type of speech/communication in the posters you mentioned. I have been asking myself how I would react if I had been a friend of the family. If I had been 1000% sure of their innocence I would have been totally devastated and would have fired "ludicrous" on the second day!! Well, I guess I would never had accepted to have "ludicrous" around me unless I would be wanting the whole world to see my friends as suspicious.But I cannot imagine being in a forum spitting venom and insulting other people's intelligence, being xenophobic and shooting insults at anyone who would not share my (blind) point of view.I find it all very strange.
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1 comment:

ta ra said...

Ahh, nostalgia. The day's before we knew for certain that Psychopops was a sociopath; before we knew there was a concerted campaign to undermine anyone who questioned the McCann version of events; before sincere posters stopped giving the benefit of the doubt to strangers on the world weird website of the DE.

A lesson for us all in the 21st Century. The world weird web has honest posters who will be the target of cynical media manipulators and trolls.

We're better off for seeing, and challenging, this reality rather than indulging it, imo.